SubscribeSeven Secrets of Military Drug Testing
The military uses urinalysis drug testing to ensure that soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen aren’t under the influence of illegal drugs.There’s quite a bit of mystery surrounding the drug testing process. In this article, we take a look at seven secrets of military drug tests.
1. Different drugs stay in your system for different lengths of time
Many people believe that drugs stay in your system for weeks. This simply isn’t true. The table below shows the certified drug detection windows (the length of time the drug stays in your system) for military testing equipment:
| Drug | Detection Window |
|---|---|
| THC (Marijuana) | 3-5 days |
| Cocaine | 2-4 days |
| Amphetamines, Methamphetamines, Ecstasy | 3 days |
| Barbituates | 1-2 days |
| Opiates | 1-2 days |
| PCP | 5-7 days |
| LSD | 1-2 days |
| Steroids | 3+ days |
2. Military drug tests use thresholds
You won’t get booted out of the military because you walked past someone in the dorm smoking a joint. The military testing labs use thresholds to rule out accidental exposure and testing errors. The standards used by the military are:
| Drug | Screening Threshold (ng/ml) | Confirmation Threshold (ng/ml) |
|---|---|---|
| THC (marijuana) | 50 | 15 |
| Cocaine | 150 | 100 |
| Morphine | 2000 | 4000 |
| Codeine | 2000 | 2000 |
| Heroin | 300 | 10 |
| Amphetamines, Methamphetamines, Ecstasy | 500 | 500 |
| Barbituates | 200 | 200 |
| PCP | 25 | 25 |
| LSD | 0.5 | 0.2 |
3. Samples are tested, retested and tested again
The drug testing lab first performs a preliminary screening test on all samples using an Olympus AU-800 Automated Chemistry Analyzer. All negative specimens are discarded after this round. Any urine sample that shows a positive indication of drug use is retested using the same equipment. If that sample also provides a positive result, the lab uses gas chromatography to identify the specific drug in the urine sample. The lab reports a positive result only if all three samples test positive.
What does all that mean? Basically, there’s little chance they’re going to make a mistake.
4. Drug test results aren’t really final
The military drug testing system is designed to be equitable and ensure drug abusers are brought to justice. However, that sometimes doesn’t happen. Several stories in recent years uncovered questionable recruiting practices including the use of “prescreening” exams by recruiters to ensure recruits are completely clean before passing them on for their official test.
5. The commander has a lot of discretion
Quite a bit of detail about the drug testing program is at the unit commander’s discretion. Basically, the commander can direct that any servicemember submit to a drug test at any time, for any reason. DOD regulations require commanders to test at least 10% of their unit every month and conduct at least one annual sweep of the entire unit.
6. Steroid testing isn’t automatic
Contrary to popular belief, the military does not routinely test for steroids. Why? It’s too expensive. Commanders may only order steroid tests under special circumstances and must obtain prior permission. Samples requiring steroid testing bypass the normal military testing system and get shipped to the sports testing lab at UCLA for analysis.
7. Drug testing in the military is humiliating
When you give your sample, you must be directly observed by an NCO or warrant officer of your same gender. Don’t think that sounds so bad? The training manual for observers states that they “must watch the urine leave the body and enter the bottle”. Here’s one soldier’s experience with the process.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I think your wrong about the length of time the drugs stay in your system. I know THC stays in your system alot longer then 3-5 days depending on how much you smoke and how fat you are.
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 am
I have to take the test next month before leaving for basic. By that time it will have been about 3 weeks since I last smoked weed. I’m about 200 lbs. What chance do I have? Any suggestions on what I could do to clean up my piss in the meantime?
April 1st, 2009 at 3:42 am
so the army doesnt test for steroids unless they request to.
May 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
what kind of steroids do they test for?
September 25th, 2009 at 4:11 am
the military is a shitty job, you dont want to get into this mess. i would keep smoking and enjoy life rather than waste 4 years in the military.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:15 am
if i dont take xanax on a regular basis like for the past 2 days and i leavefor bc in 6 days should i be worried and are those sheets corret above
October 27th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
bc as in bootcamp for the united states marines crops and i have a piss test to take in about a week away i hear from many different people that they dont test for xanax but other ppl tell me that it can be tested for up request
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:48 am
I tested clean during basic after 12 days off pot.
January 16th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
So it has been a month since a puff and I am taking a ABMC test kit. 5 Panel, 4 are strong lines and one is a light line, should I have a concern. I do MEPS next Weds. I have read that a light line is pass no matter what. jeez, I should never have done that shit.
January 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Will the leagal spice drug show on the ua?
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:28 pm
No, they don’t drug test for legal spices, you fucking retard.
February 26th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Hahaha spices? What the hell…anyway, those of you who feel dedicated to serve your country for whatever reason, please remember if you feel the need to take a drug like xanax (drug for nervousness and tension) then there is no reason for you to join the military cause its gonna be stressful and you little girls won’t have mommy there to give you your medicine!!
March 7th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
humiliating? just from pissing in front of someone? i think if you’re in the military and you’ve gone through basic then your threshold for what is humiliating is greater than having an issue with pissing in front of someone. the part i hate is that you have to carry the urine sample above your head from the bathroom back to the turn-in point and, if i didn’t drink a lot of water that day, and my piss is yellow and everyone can see it…that’s kind of embarrassing. BUT FUCK IT!
March 18th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
just fyi, im active duty and work in the hospital; starting in febuary they came out with a newer test and the drug “spice” does show up in it. soo good luck listening to “smartass” who by the way obviously isnt in the service.
March 29th, 2010 at 2:41 am
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March 31st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Comment for dumby.
What branch are you in. Im in the army is there a Policy Change documents somewhere were I can have proof of the new test? I have heard both they are about to start and that it isnt true. I just want to see it on paper for my self. Thanks
April 11th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
No test for spice but better expect one in the next year. It’s top priority in the military, my dads actually a commander in norfolk and he’s been working hard against it actually but he said it’s going to happen in the next year if not 6 months.
April 15th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I was prescribed 5mg Valium to help with my insomnia. I don’t “NEED” the meds, but they help tremendously, especially since I’m used to working a wonky schedule.
Would this be a problem if my doctor would write a letter explaining my reasons for the meds, or should I just completely stop? Again, they help TREMENDOUSLY with my insomnia problems, but I love this country, and I feel that as a free citizen, I owe it to my country to serve.
Thanks.
April 15th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
You guys would be wise to listen to dummy. 1.) any drug can be tested for once a metabolite is identified. 2.) I am a officer and just received a brief on this very subject today. They do have a test for this drug, it just isnt widespread as of yet. They cant submit a sample to be tested. NCIS has been testing samples for it. SMARTASS should change his name to dumbass
April 18th, 2010 at 7:39 am
well subdude i know that if they are testing for it it would be listed on the drugs the military test for and i havent heard or seen anywhere where they are testing for spice. i’ve searched the internet and not found one airmen, marine, sailior, or soldier that has popped hot on a UA screening for spice. the only people that have gotin caught with it are people that have been caught in the act of smoking it or someone telling on them. theres got to be a policy letter somewhere some proof if they are testing for it, a air force reg, army reg, something, i want to see proof.
April 19th, 2010 at 12:57 am
will somebody please let me know if spice stays in your system, and if so, how long?
April 20th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
For all those worried about testing positive for THC check this out:
If you smoked weed recently and don’t want to pop here is your guide (I learned this from my hippie dad and have proven it three different times)…you’re going to need 2 days minimum, so let’s hope your test isn’t tomorrow. Go to a supermarket and grab a bottle of cranberry juice and a jug of water, you’re also going to need the key ingredient found in the vitamin section, it’s called GOLDEN SEAL, and it absolutely fucking works. For those of you who have tried bleach or niacin STOP, you’re going to fuck your shit up. GoldenSeal recommends 1 a day for immune system benefits, but you’re going to want to take 2 every couple of hours (don’t freak out because the beauty of this herb is that it’s just that, an herb…so if you take to much you just have herbs in your shit, it won’t hurt you). What goldenseal does is turn fat stored THC into water soluble THC, so you’ll piss it out (you can look that up if you want). now since you’ve got dissolved THC in your system you have to flush it, so grab a jug of water and drink as much as your body can take until your test *3 gallons at once will probably kill you so take it easy*
On test day make sure take the morning piss before you go in, even though they say not to. and make sure that when you are ready to fill the cup that it’s nice and clear.
I passed both at MEPS and at Great Lakes, both were 3 days after last smoking. Of course body fat is an issue, so this could vary a little from person to person
April 21st, 2010 at 2:52 pm
I am in the marines and got drunk and smoke some spice called serinity now. I have a drug test in 9 days and im shitting bricks about it. What i need to know is does spice show up and how do you know it does + how long it stays in your system? i dont wanna hear any opinions on the matter i need straight fact. thank you
April 21st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Serenity now and pep spice are not considered illegal under federal or state law. There not going to discharge a marine for smoking a mixture of ground up flower pedals and roots that happen to produce euphoric sensations. Its considered a ensence. No test exist to test for pep spice or serenity now. no company is going to waste money on figuring out a way to test for something thats not illegal and something thats just flowers roots and such.. these people are idiots
April 23rd, 2010 at 7:38 pm
YO THEY ARE KIKIN OUT A MARINE IN MY UNIT FOR SPICE. HE JUST GOT NJP’D TODAY APRIL 23 AND IS NOW A PRIVATE FROM LCPL. THEY CAN TEST FOR SPICE BUT THE co HAS TO REQUEST IT. IT IS LIKE STEROIDS . THER IS A SPECIAL TEST. ALSO THERE ARE 2 MARINES AT MCAS MIRAMAR THAT POPPED FOR SPICE DUE TO THE SAME REASON. FUCKED UP RIGHT. IM WAITING FOR MY RESULTS TO COME BACK NOW IM HOPING THE OPIATES ARE OUTTA MY SYSTEM. WE WILL SEE.
April 24th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
i have been tested 2 times while smoking spice the night and even the day of and have not been tested positive…knock on wood. but still..
April 30th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
well i took a pee test 16 days ago and havent heard nothing yet both me and a buddy smoked the same day and that was about 7 days before ill keep updating every week, and also they were checking for it because a bunch of people in the battlion got caught with it, but not on a pee test they were caught in the act of smoking it, so we will see if it shows or not.
April 30th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
how long does it take to get the results of a military drug test?
April 30th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Alot of you think you’re really tough posting your big tyme comments on here about how someone made a mistake..because bottom fucking line, you will all make mistakes regatrdless if you have ever made one yet. Maybe you’ll snap one day and hit someone close to you and then you come back on here and tell me that wasn’t as punishable as smoking weed, now i’m being a smart ass because all of ur reytarded and demoralizing responses to a simple question.. To answer the first post, military equipment is strong enough to only detect thc usage from 3- 5 days out..that doesn’t mean its still not in ur system reyyyytard
April 30th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
how long does it take to get the results of a military drug test!!?
May 1st, 2010 at 3:06 am
@passing a drug test (THC)
you just relieved a whole lot of my stress, thank you! i leave for great lakes on tuesday and i havent smoked in 2 weeks (4-20). and i will do what you said. PRAY FOR ME
May 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
YES THEY CAN TEST FOR SPICE IN THE MC. NOT SURE HOW LONG IT STAYS IN YOUR SYSTEM BUT I SMOKED LAST NIGHT AND THEY ARE TESTING US TODAY. I’M PRETTY SURE THEY ARE TESTING FOR SPICE BECAUSE THIS IS A RANDOM TEST. I WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW THE RESULTS. BUT THIS SCARE IS ENOUGH FOR ME AND HOPEFULLY IT DOESN’T SHOW UP I WILL NOT SMOKE SPICE ANYMORE.
May 11th, 2010 at 9:41 am
Yes they Drug Test! If ur in the miltary it shouldnt be embarrassing suck it up & get over it ur serving ur country im In the Navy & i will never regret it & those of your dissing the service you prolly wouldnt be alive if it werent for us !!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Ahhhh.. Spice.. I want to start by saying this, if they are positivly testing for spice and all of its synthetic components then 50% of our military will be discharged. Its too available and we can afford it. Honestly spice is todays new generation of high and MOST people that have smoked weed in the past has or will try spice now. If its tested for right now were fucked, and so far no one has been fucked.
May 12th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
To answer the question swiftly, we can now test for Spice, and it is Illegal in all 4 military service branches now. The Army followed suit as the last branch to ban it and test for it. It became illegal in Jan2010 IAW AR 600-85 Para 4, Section 26. The new AR hasn’t been printed yet, but it has been updated. I am a UPL (unit prevention leader) for my unit and received the “SPICE” brief last month. Spice is one of the 5 random tests that are used on a rotational base. Your commander can request it if He/She or your supervisor suspects that you have been using it. Additionally we already have a Joe who has been busted for spice and is going through JAG now. The metabolites that are being looked for are JWH 018 and HU-210. Right now the Hawaiian CO’s are putting together a joint policy letter to address spice use. We don’t know how long the drug stays in people’s system yet, but it should serve as an equal to THC (I.E. body size, fat, day to day use, and how long you’ve been using it.)
May 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
WOW.. I served from 1984 to 1988 in the Air Force and smoked weed before enlisting and smoked after seperating, but not while I was on active duty. I am a professional fire fighter (Captain) now and some of my crew smoke spice, and none of them have tested positive. We go by DOT standards, not sure of military testing. SGT UPL seems like a knowledgable individual (military policies), all I know is that each state has to pass it into law that spice is illegal. My state has tried but it didn’t make it off the floor. Kentucky is one of the few states that has made it illegal, so if you drive thru their state get rid of it, or expect to be arrested. Maybe you all should do as I do, “just say no” to any mind altering drug. Beer is 100% legal, so, drink up and thanks for protecting our country.
May 19th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Everyone saying that spice is legal may be correct in stating that , however, military and civilian laws are different. Being in the military is a privilege, and honor . I guess what I’m trying to say is that things you do in you everyday life may not be acceptable in the military. I have a friend in the Corps who just got NJPED for HAVING A SPICE WRAPPER IN HIS POCKET. They are strict about it .
May 20th, 2010 at 10:22 am
thc is in your system for 30-40 days unless the test being conducted is a cotton saliva swab test, in which case it is detectable 4-5 days but seeing as how they will be doing urinalysis they will be able to test back a lot further.
May 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
So say I took a piss test 2 days before I eas and Smoked spice 3 days prior. What happens? I keep my HONERABLE DIS. Or they call me back? I’ll just get a lawyer if they call me.
May 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I am a chief in the navy and had one of my young sailors crash his truck last night because he was smoking spice and could no longer feel his legs and stop the vehicle. We took urine samples and requested the test for spice. He and the other person in the vehicle are both being charged with UCMJ article 92 (failure to obey and order). They both admitted to smoking spice and will be administratively discharged
May 29th, 2010 at 5:56 am
ok guys this is my take on the whole spice thing….can they test for it no not at the moment but they are working very hard on approving a test (which do exist prior to whatever your friends are telling you) i can tell you from personal experience that i just watched my c.o shitcan 7 people behind this spice bullshit and he masted 18 more and a test was not given to any of these people. ncis did an investigation on the people and just off of statements alone our junior sailor of the year got kicked out now if you heed my warning or not its up to u i personally dont give a shit but if u think that youre gonna get away forever with that youre absoultely wrong and yes i am on active duty on a fast attack sub and chief is right they wont get you on article 134 (drugs) theyre gonna pop u with a article 92 failure to obey a lawful order i forgot the document but it came out in 05 stating that anything that causes a high or a stupfercation is illegal
June 2nd, 2010 at 7:54 pm
i was just snitched on for smoking spice. i see my commander very soon and im pretty nervous about it. im not going to lie to his face about the fact that i did smoke it because the last time i smoked it was the day we got briefed about not smoking it. im almost brand new to the air force and had no idea it was illegal. anyways just wondering if there were anymore situations out there similar to mine. if so what was the punishment?????
June 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 pm
As stated above, art 92 admin sep, they will give you the whole “ignorance is no excuse” thingy-ma-jigger. That is, if you admit to it, which would probably be the dumbest fucking thing you could do. There are different blends of spice and and different chemical compounds, hence the various choices we have at the head shop. Id keep my mouth locked up, and just see if they can pop you on the piss. If they cant prove it, then it didn’t happen. None of you military bubbas say “perception is reality” in this case. Maybe for EMI or DRB, but not NJP or Mast, or whatever the hell it is that your chosen branch. Don’t you love American law?
I’m an AD FMF Corpsman, and I still haven’t seen any written evidence of testing or anyone popping for spice. Is there a command UA coordinator out there that has some memo or something that identify what “SGT UPL” is talking about a little earlier. Thanks.
-Doc
June 2nd, 2010 at 10:10 pm
damn thats shitty. if there was only one or two snitches id just deny all day. but the 7 people who did get busted while i was deployed told the investigators who they smoked with and my name was brought up 5 of the 7 saying i smoked with them because they cant keep their mouths shut. thanks for the insight though
June 7th, 2010 at 8:56 am
i just recieved my punishment and it was just an LOR and the possiblity of being on a control roster. SHIIITT id take that any day over getting the boot. got out of that real EASILY.
June 7th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Any idea of what the general policy or consensus is on taking something legally prescribed well after the date it was needed?
For instance, I had a 30 day prescription of Ambien, as well as leftover Vicodin from my wisdom tooth extraction. It’s been roughly half a year later, and I still take one or the other occasionally. I’m a Coastie, so we pretty much follow the Navy’s rules on urinalysis.
June 9th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Has anyone heard of anyone in the military actually pop on a piss test for “spice”? I’ve heard all kinds of rumors, but yet anyone that has actually personally known someone..and not just someone who got in trouble because he got caught or admitted to doing smoking it.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
@ Pushing it: If you pop hot for Vicodin on your UA, and your prescription has expired, you will be processed as though you took the drug illegally, because you did… the military stipulates that prescription medication is to be used by the person for whom it was prescribed and only for the allotted time period indicated.
As for “Spice” blends, JWH-018 and UH-210 are water soluble metabolites, and therefore remain in your system for a period of 18-48 hours depending on your level of hydration and body mass (not Body Fat Index).
June 14th, 2010 at 11:12 am
correction: HU-210
June 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Do note, however, that there are several synthetic cannabinoids available which have no local, state or federal restrictions for either civilians and DoD persons. Also, there are far more potent variations which bind to the Cannabinoid receptors in your brain (CB1 and CB2) in various ways, making each unique in it’s effects:
JWH-081 – think indica; a heavy body stone with intact mental capacity.
JWH-250 – think sativa; a soaring high throughout body and mind, a bit of a trip.
CP 55,244 – 500x more potent than THC… good luck finding this; only published vendor is a pharm in China
June 17th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
okay on april 22nd i went to captains mast for the suspicion of doing “spice”. i was accused of it and there was no evidence at all to show ive commited this offense. 1 statement led me to mast but then 2 other witnesses whos stories did not fully match stated i did it with them so a total of 3 accusers. i pleaded not guilty but my tyrant CO found me guilty with an article 92 and recomended for admin seperation with an OTH. now being my whole upper chain supported me, im a good sailor and i truly did not do this and i have never been in any trouble, can the navy admin board seriously give me the boot with an OTH for accusations. plus a week after the mast they had the entire command sign a page 13 notifying us that “spice” of any sort is illegal. and we even did training on it. all after this allegedly took place. anyone have any advice, comments, speculations, understandings?
June 18th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Ben carrs-
Yeah they will boot you with an OTH if your CO is trying to do it. I seriously reccomend you request a court martial. Request a civilian lawyerwho specialized in military cases. It will be a huge headache for them and your case will get swept under the rug.
The reason they had everyone sign the page 13 was to cover their ass in case this happens again because they know they don’t have much. How could you have failed to obey an order when no order had been given yet.
June 18th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
The Ex is correct, persue outside legal counsel, they have no case.
June 19th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
my daughter is in the navy. she just turned 21 and she is recently married to another navy personnel. she had her wisdom teeth extracted in Feb 2010. She was prescribed pain meds and did not take all of them. The prescription was not refillable. It had 16 total. She had an IUD implanted and has had sever cramping. She attempted to get help from the doctors and was told to take naproxen. this is just another Ibuprofen tablet. her pain in her lower extremities equaled someone dilating 3cm and in full labor! Here is the situation: She is pulled to take her routine urinalysis and she writes down on the paperwork she has taken this pain med for her IUD pain. She fails the test. They currently have her in 45 day restriction. What does she need to do? What can we do, her parents, here in georgia. what can her husband do? she has made the statement they are going to kick her out. seriously? she has been a model member for 2 1/2 years and now they can do that? I would think you tell your doctor you took the meds and they write it down in your file and you are done. help.
June 22nd, 2010 at 12:39 am
im in the air force currently. they will kick you out for any mind altering substance. or substance abuse. i talked to a wing commander and he said even if you are huffing paint, thats substance abuse. paint is legal, huffing is not. i forgot to mention that alchohol is the exception. as long as your of age
June 23rd, 2010 at 4:24 am
Jst took the piss test where they check for solid lines…it was negative….but there sending two samples to a lab for testeng…what are the chances of testing positive for this test
June 30th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
dude, does it show up or not? i took a test like a month ago, and smoked spice up all night the night before and nada. latest news please somebody
July 1st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
well im in the marines right now , and spice is a real problem in pensacola , just last week we were told they came up witha way of testing spice, im not sure if its true or theyre just trying to fuck with us , but i wouldnt fucking risk my career for that shit , why dont you try shrooms instead ?
July 3rd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
cant get any. in So Cal.
July 3rd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
i dont get it. i have seen so many people get so fuckin stupid with beer and vodka, but if we smoke a joint, they want to lock us up, i have never seen anyone high gettin in fights and trying to do ridicoulous shit.
July 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
You’re all F&CKING morons, each one of you that pop hot and get tossed deserve it. F&cking junkies smoking ground up flowers. Seriously grow the F up and put the pipe down or get out. Yes spice salvia salivia and all this other lame shit u fags are puffing on is illegal in all branches and yes they are testing for it. Ill bet 90% of these dumbasses that are afraid of popping are e-4 and below
way to live up to the hype guys
July 5th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
To Idiots….
You sound like a very bitter guy.
calling them fags for smoking? So if I find drinking dumb I have the right to yell at you for the same reason? No because the only reason weeb is illegal anyways is because of the military. It’s the safest drug on this earth as noone has ever died from OD’ng on weed. It relaxes you and should be made legal since I can go drink and kill myself slowly and maybe someone else if I drive. Chill out seriously because a lot more NCO’s smoke then you obviously know.
July 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
And I’m sure you were never e-4 or below”idiots” way to live up to your rank you power hungry pussy. Just stay clean people then you wouldn’t have to worry bout stupid shit like this. Easier said than done.. I’ve never heard of a “spice” test, but why risk it!!
July 9th, 2010 at 2:29 am
i bet you were the fag in high school that got picked on growing up wernt you. now that you joined the military and ranked up you feel all bad ass and powerful. newsflash faggot, your’re still the lame cunt you were in high school. i have never actually heard or have someone else personally know anyone to test positive for spice, i did hear recently though the air force put out a memo saying yes they were testing for it now. but again never have personally heard of someone i know testing positive, and i would have because EVERYONE does it.
July 14th, 2010 at 7:07 am
if u had a medical marijuana card in california but didnt renew it and could pass a drug test, would u be accepted?
July 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Mominga, usually, with prescriptions given out in medical, their is no technical date to stop use, other then the urinalysis PO’s suggested no more then eight months. Having said that, if when question, she repliedsaying she used those pills for anything other then what they were originally prescribed to be used for, then Big Navy will find her at fault because of how the instruction is written.
@idiots- are you serving for a paycheck, or for the people of this country? Last time I checked, I spend 24/7, 365 as an active duty service member so that these ppl can voice their opinion, and make whatever life choices they choose, whether I agree with their ways or not.
@wootz, do not disclose shit to them about drugs. Just get clean well before you go in, and don’t fuck it up once you push through basic.
July 15th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
idiots you are a stupid you have never smoked weed and thats why you dont know. your just just a homo that trust every the government puts in your hand so judge when you dont know fagit!!!
July 21st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
I am active duty and smoke spice almost everday (never at work) and have never popped on a ua. There is NO TEST YET for synthetic cannibinoids however HU-210 ‘may’ lead to false positives due to similar structural analogs to THC but jwh-018, 250, 75 will not. Even if a test does come out for say 018 it will only test for that certain metabolite and a seperate test would be required for 250 or any other variation of jwh. I recommend buying from emeraldspice.net if u want a clean product with no chance of HU-210 because if u do some research the actual “spice” brand has been proven to contain hu210 which may have led to people testing positive.
July 22nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
there is a drug test for spice but it just came out as of june of 2010. ANd its ran by a private company. it only stays in your urin for 72 hours. ANd is ver expensive to test for. Im in the military and have yet to test hott for spice
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:03 am
people who don’t smoke spice should be executed. i love spice. spice has saved my life on numerous occasions. if it weren’t for spice, i wouldn’t be the man/woman i am now today.
July 23rd, 2010 at 6:06 am
my parents have been growing spice since the early 70′s and it’s become my religion, my way of life. the only downside to spice is that it makes me poop funny, but suprisingly, the smell is fantastic!
July 25th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
I was looking to see if anyone smoked before their military test, how long before and past…Last time I smoked was 40 days and I am a light smoker NOT 24/7 Cheech and Chong Smoker, right? Will I piss “HOT”, my Piss Test is next WEEK ! Oh yeah, to all you Fags that smoke Spice or Encense, come on! wHERE DID YOU GET THAT AT THE JONAS BROS. CONCERT YOU QUEERS, Smoke Pot if you want to don’t smoke some crap you order out of the back of some comic book.
July 26th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Umm…I was told that yes there is indeed a test for Spice now…however its ur unit discretion whether to test for it or not. Come about next month it’ll become something they test for regardless…Spice stays in your system for about 3 days give or take ur body type weight excercise habits ect. Just because its legal doesn’t make it legal to those serving. Salvia is legal right? BUT the military can’t use it.
As for ambien…it has no properties that can make it be tested for. The reason its controlled is due to the fact that it has highly addictive properties but isn’t categorized as any of the things that the military tests for.
And btw…barbituates stay in ur system for like 2 wks. Lol. I had took some meds for a headache and it showed up on my UA 2 wks later. THC stays in waaay longer the 3-5 days..its like every hit or something like that causes it to stay in ur system longer…unless ur throwing back gallons of water, working out, and going to a sauna suck it up. U shouldn’t have smoked it in the 1st place lol.
July 29th, 2010 at 4:11 am
Hey guys. So I’m joining the Air Force and I just smoked like two puffs of reggies like 2 weeks ago, before that I didn’t smoke for like 2 months. Do You think that I will be good for my MEPS drug test in like 32 days?
July 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Carl, yes, as long as you stay clean from now until then, you’ll be fine… drink plenty of water in the meantime (but don’t drown yourself!)
July 29th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Finally some proof. http://www.redwoodtoxicology.com Now states that yes indeed they do have a test for spice now. So if your still smoking I reccomend quitting. States it can only be detected within 72hours.
July 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
so salvia can only be detected in urine for 72 hours?
July 30th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Al, Im not sure honestly. I just know what that site says. I know Salvia is not a synthetic cannabinoid and I was talking about a test for “Spice” which is entirely differnt substance.
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:17 pm
In response to smartass; there are tests and due to the recent crack down on spice and other synthetic drugs the military does do testing for them. whos the dumbass now
August 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Salvia divinorum has been known to be found in several brands of spice, k2 etc. Yes there are drug test for the synthetic drugs. The nomenclature of the active ingredient is a form of JWH most commonly found is JWH-018. Hope that helps
August 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
@ finally, i had to wade through alot of bullshit and opinions but im glad you posted the link. so thank you for the FACTS
August 7th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
i tested positive for sherm on my enlistment drug test. am i screwed or can i retest and be considered a candidate in the future? was a really dumb thing to do. i can’t a straight answer. thanks.
August 9th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I’m 6ft tall, thin and work out frequently. My body has long thin bones and Im guessing a high metabolism since I seem unable to gain much fat. I work in construction so I’ve sweated alot. I last smoked weed a week ago. To anybody with credible experience on the subject, would you say I would test clean? My test is a week away. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
August 11th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
@gert; once you pop for something you’re no longer going to get in. ever. sorry bro
August 12th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
If someone in the Navy is caught smoking Spice – what is the penalty?
I know someone who’s being accused of it.
And though he actually didn’t do it – (he is anti-drug) – someone turned him in erroneously he is still facing the penalty.
August 21st, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Does anyone who can properly order or pick who will test during a urinalysis? Can and Enlisted person change a test that was directed by an officer to be random to a unit wide sweep at the last moment? And where might I find directives on this? Thanks
August 25th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
so is the spice test mandatory now or is it like roids and have to be requested
August 25th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
soooo i have to go to meps tomorrow && last time i smoked weed was july 10th..i was only an occassional smoker(weekends).. will i pass the test?
August 26th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Prettigurl you will be fine. Trust me. Anyone think spice will be outta your system in 8 days?
August 26th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
It’s honestly quite sad to see so many sheep chanting the same thing “Don’t smoke weed! It’s bad and illegal!” All you servicemembers are alcoholics. I should know, my brother drinks all the time. Why do you follow the government lies about marijuana? If you can drink, destroy your liver, beat your wife, and kill someone in an accident, then what’s wrong with me smoking a plant that has never in the history of the world killed someone? Try to keep an open mind about things. Just because you don’t smoke it, doesn’t mean I should be told I can’t. It will be legalized in my lifetime, whether you like it or not, and I hope you all pass by my house so I can offer you a hit.
August 28th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
so what is the deal with spice? Is it going to be automatically tested like everything else and does anyone have proof
August 31st, 2010 at 6:34 pm
ok let’s get back on topic.
Let’s say I smoked three bowls of spice a week before my MEPS drug test U/A. Will it pop? does anyone know..
August 31st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
if i smoke spice but stay clear of it a week before a drug test i will be fine?
August 31st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
For all that have a question about ‘spice’ it is not illegal it is illegal to ingest!! the product call spice or K2 is a synthetic cannibinoed, so when they do a drug test they test for a THC threshole in your bodies system…THEY DO NOT TEST FOR SPICE….YET ANYHOW!!! the feds are trying to make this top priority to be illegal but like with a politics it takes time!!! ONE MORE THING! if you are a pot smoker as i was for many years….what is your reason to join the millitary? they only thing now days joining the millitary is insured death….pot smokers are happy and don’t think of death so don’t think about joining the millitary….AND SCREW LAW INFORCEMENT LEAVE THAT TO THE KIDS THAT GOT PICKED ON IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:31 pm
ONE MORE THING THEY DO NOT TEST FOR SPICE. I KNOW SOMEONE ON PROBABTION/POROL AND HAS SMOKED IT OVER A YEAR AND HAS NEVER HAD A POSITIVE DRUG SCREENING!!! THANKS SO STOP ASKING ALL THESE STUPID QUESTIONS ABOUT SPICE WHEN IT IS NOT EVEN ILLEGAL IN THE US…ONLY IN OVER SEA COUNTRIES AS OF NOW….THE FUTURE WELL I CAN’T TELL YOU THAT AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE SO SOOOO…..YOU WILL PASS ANY DRUG TEST MILLITARY, GROCERY STORE, OR PROBATION TEST…ANY THING YOU HEAR IS TO SCARE THE VICTIM INTO NOT USING TO CURRENT DATE!!!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:35 pm
MR. fokitall- then how do you explain this? http://www.redwoodtoxicology.com/services/synthetic_cannabinoid_testing.html
August 31st, 2010 at 11:36 pm
AND IF YOU WORRY ABOUT COMING UP DIRTY IN A MILLITARY TEST JUST DON’T SMOKE ANYTHING AND DON’T BE A DUMB ASS JUST BE A HEAVY DRINKER AND BECOME A NUT CASE…THATS WHAT THE MILLITARY IS GOOD FOR RIGHT FUCKING UP YOUR LIFE, JUST TO PLAY WORLD POLICE AND GAIN DOMININCE OVER THE WORLD FOR INTIMIDATION. WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE THE MOST HATED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD OTHER THAN LACK OF INTELLIGENCE!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:37 pm
mr fokitall go to that link!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:39 pm
TO WTF!!! THEY ONLY TEST IN OVER SEA COUNTRYS AS OF NOW…EVEN IF TESTED YOU CAN NOT BE PROSICUTED BECAUSE IT HAS NOT GONE THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS A ILLEGAL DRUG YET… BUT LIKE I SAID I DON’T KNOW THE FUTURE IM SURE THEY WILL HAVE ONE SOON. BUT FOR NOW SMOKE ALL THE SPICE YOU WANT
August 31st, 2010 at 11:43 pm
where are u getting this info? and what about all these dudes gettin trouble for it the military? there obviously is sumthin goin on with this shit
August 31st, 2010 at 11:46 pm
I CORRECT MYSELF I DO BELIVE THEY TEST IN A FEW RANDOM STATES FOR IT NOW.. BUT IS SAFE UNTILL IT IS MADE PRESENT THAT THEY SCREEN FOR THE DRUG SPICE OR K2. YOU MUST BE AWARE BY LAW WHAT THEY ARE TESTING FOR AT ALL TIMES SOOOOOO, IN THEORY YOU WILL KNOW THEY ARE TESTING YOUR FOR IT WHEN IT COMES THAT TIME, RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST CONTRAVERSIAL TALK, AND PEOPLE BEING PARANOID IN WHICH THEY SHOULD NOT SMOKE IF IT PUTTING THAT MUCH OF A WORRIE ON THEM!
August 31st, 2010 at 11:48 pm
MILLITARY IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF KNOWING, THEY DO AS. THEY PLEASE AND TEST FOR WHAT THEY WANT WEATHER IT IS AGAINST A PERSONS RIGHT OR NOT. AND FOR INFO WISE JUST SEARCH SPICE OR K2 AND YOU WILL FIND ALL THE INFORMATION YOU WILL WANT TO FIND
August 31st, 2010 at 11:51 pm
well im in the guard and i got a airforce memo sateing that spice is illegal in the military and my first sgt said we will get kicked out if we smoke it. they have yet to specify if there is a test for it. but ive heard alot of storys of troops gettin in truoble over it and a few of random test for it that ive read on here ( read comment 35) i just want to know if i can smoke this shit except the 72 hrs before a have duty. i love it. the trip is awesome. ive had a few bad ones but even then i made them fun. i just want more cold hard facts
August 31st, 2010 at 11:54 pm
MY ADVICE TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS NOT TO SMOKE IT IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT A DISANARABLE DISCARGE…WHICH IS MY GUESS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.. JUST WAIT TILL YOUR OUT MAN AND SMOKE THE REAL THING BUDS ARE SOO MUCH BETTER NOTHING COMPARES TO THE SMELL AND TASTE OF GOOD DANK
August 31st, 2010 at 11:58 pm
PLUS IF YOU ARE A ACTIVE FIT PERSON AND YOU TAKE A HIT OF WEED IT IS USALLY OUT IN 3-5 DAYS ANYWAYS…THE HEAVY SET PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT TAKE LONGER TO GET CLEAN, BECAUSE EVERYTHING STORES IN YOUR FAT CELLS AND REMAIN LONGER THE MORE WEIGHT A PERSON HAS….FAT WEIGHT THAT IS. THC IS STORED IN FAT CELLS AND THAT IS WHY THRESHOLDS AND TIME TO GET CLEAN DEPEND ON A PERSONS PHYSICAL ATRIBUTES. IF YOU WORK OUT YOU WILL BE CLEAN FASTER THAT THAT FAT DUDE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES ALL DAY….GETTING FATTER LOL
September 1st, 2010 at 12:01 am
BUT FOR THE SERVICE PEOPLE….AND DON’T WISH TO RUIN A CAREER OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU HAVE GOING FOR YOU…JUST DON’T SMOKE ANYTHING UNTILL YOU ARE CLEAN AND CLEAR TO DO SO…TRUST ME THAT DAY WILL COME.
September 1st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
I’ve been in the military for a couple of years now. I have close friends and family who have been in for much longer. I also have a lot of stoner/hippy friends. Pre-Navy I smoked a lot of bud, but I knew that I had to quit. After all, which was more important to me, a buzz or a fatter paycheck. Spice? I’ve been tempted, but I’ve made the right decision and not smoked. It’s not the right decision because “drugs are evil and god hates happy people”. It’s the right decision because I don’t want to get dishcarged. Screw that! People have gotten booted left and right, I personally know dozens of cases. BUT all of them were either found with it or snitched on. I don’t know a single person that has popped for spice. I’m not saying it can’t be tested for, because it obviously can. I’m saying that the service doesn’t give a crap whether you piss yellow or clear, if they have any sign of evidence they will push for discharge. The kicker (and in my opinion the most absurd part) is that simple fact. If somebody didn’t like you, they could tell your CO that you’ve been smoking spice, and whether you have or not… you’re in the shit. Everybody is out to save their own asses, even though you’ll get the boot whether you snitch or not, and will throw you under the bus before you can say “But I can pass a drug test!” My advice, wait until your out and hope that people don’t get you caught up in their own problems.